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090: Who Keeps the Dog? Navigating Pet Custody in Divorce with International Expert Karis Nafte

When families separate, deciding who keeps the dog can feel just as emotional as any other part of the breakup. In this episode, we explore why pet disputes become so charged and how to make decisions that truly prioritize both kids and animals.
We walk through why it’s crucial not to treat pets like children in divorce, how their needs differ, and what happens when those lines get blurred. Karis explains how breed, personality, age, health, and history all factor into whether a dog can realistically move between homes, and why shared pet parenting often creates more stress than comfort for the animal.
We also talk about cats, “roommate” animals, bonded pairs, and why territory matters so much. Parents, professionals, and pet lovers will learn practical ways to evaluate what’s actually best for the dog, how to structure trial arrangements, and how to balance children’s attachment with responsible, long-term planning for their four-legged family members.
In this episode, you will hear:
Emotional stakes of pet custody when families separate  
Why pets should not be treated like children in divorce decisions  
Warning signs that a pet is stressed by moving between homes  
Structuring trial custody arrangements and contingency plans for pets  
Balancing children’s attachment to pets with the animal’s best interests  
Resources from this Episode
https://www.whokeepsthedog.com/
Link to the book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Who-Keeps-Dog-Navigating-Custody/dp/1617812927/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1FZ5RBAJ965HI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.LmWDiJYDbIW6rqEj5igpcg.QFgZQNsCn-YRAPD3Adzv_AT00lqniZlIsbCHr3IUy2s&dib_tag=se&keywords=book+who+keeps+the+dog+karis+nafte&qid=1728661858&sprefix=book+who+keeps+the+dog+karis+nafte%2Caps%2C370&sr=8-1
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming, but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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089: Balancing Evidence-Collection and Peacekeeping when Proving Child Safety Issues: An Interview with Author and Divorce Survivor Cheryl Palmar

Join Krista on the Children First Family Law Podcast to explore the compelling story of Cheryl Palmar, a best-selling author in the United States and Australia who transformed her life despite the turmoil of a troubled marriage. In this episode, Cheryl shares her journey from heartache to empowerment, revealing the emotional and legal battles she encountered while navigating a marriage with a highly functioning alcoholic partner. Along the way, however, she found that with careful planning and evidence collection, she was able to accomplish and amicable divorce with a full settlement despite the potential that her case could have ended up as yet another story of toxic litigation.
Cheryl's candid narrative offers insight into the complex process of securing a future for herself and her daughter. She discusses the importance of gathering evidence, seeking legal guidance, and the strategic steps she took to ensure their safety. Her experience highlights the necessity of having a strong support system and the courage required to initiate change.
Beyond the legal aspects, Cheryl offers insights on healing and co-parenting. Her reflections on therapy and personal growth provide hope to others facing similar challenges. Cheryl’s book, "Erased: Exiting a Toxic Relationship," serves as a guiding light for those feeling trapped in toxic relationships, inspiring a path towards a healthier and more empowered future, and highlights ways to get the protections you need and want for your children even in ugly, risky situations through a careful approach to preparing for and executing your case.
In this episode, you will hear:
Cheryl Palmar's journey from a marriage with a functioning alcoholic to empowerment and healing.
Emotional struggles and legal strategies in protecting her daughter and navigating divorce.
Insights into gathering evidence, privacy concerns, and the importance of legal advice in substance abuse situations.
Revelations about the balance of collecting evidence and the ability to approach a case peacefully and without extensive litigation – all through the power of incontrovertible facts, not allegations.
The role of co-parenting, focusing on unity and the well-being of their child despite past conflicts.
Discussion on the importance of therapy and personal growth after divorce.
Cheryl's experience with sobriety testing agreements to ensure her daughter's safety during parenting time and decision making.
Resources from this Episode
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
"Erased: Exiting a Toxic Relationship" by Cheryl Palmar available online on Amazon.com or Barnes & Noble
Amazon: https://a.co/d/dnrbUMY
Barnes & Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/erased-cheryl-palmar/1144672044?ean=9781923123199
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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088: Screens, Smartphones, and Divorce: What Every Co-Parent Needs to Know with Kris Perry

Childhood is being reshaped by screens, and co-parents are often on the front lines of that change. In this episode, we sit down with Kris Perry, Executive Director of Children and Screens: Institute of Digital Media and Child Development, to unpack what the research really shows about kids, tech, and two-home families.
We explore how smartphones, social media, gaming, and even emerging AI companions affect children’s brain development, mental health, and capacity for real-world connection. Kris explains how conflicting technology rules between households can heighten conflict, confuse kids, and undermine healthy boundaries — and how co-parents can realign around child-centered guidelines.
Listeners learn why struggle, experimentation, and face-to-face interaction are irreplaceable for healthy development, and why relying on devices or chatbots as “easy” solutions can quietly erode those experiences. The conversation offers research-backed, practical takeaways to help parents, co-parents, and family law professionals create consistent tech expectations that truly prioritize children’s long-term well-being.
In this episode, you will hear:
Biggest misconceptions parents have about kids and technology  
Age and stage differences in screen use and brain development  
Screen time vs. “what’s happening online” and why both matter  
AI chatbots, digital companions, and the risks of kids anthropomorphizing machines  
Dopamine, addiction-like patterns, and the impact on attention, mood, and joy  
Resources from this Episode
https://mailchi.mp/7391d300e044/children-and-screens-names-cali-gov-senior-advisor-as-first-executive-director 
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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087: What Every Divorcing Parent Needs to Know About Toxic Stress and Children with Mindy Mitnick, Recipient of AFCC's 2026 Distinguished Service Award

What if the way adults handle conflict during divorce could actually reshape a child’s developing brain? In this conversation, we talk with renowned psychologist and AFCC Distinguished Service Award recipient, Mindy Mitnick, about what toxic stress really is — and why every divorcing parent needs to understand it.
Drawing on nearly five decades working with family courts, parenting time and decision making disputes, high-conflict separations, and complex parent–child dynamics, Mindy explains the crucial differences between positive, negative, acute, chronic, and toxic stress. She breaks down how ongoing conflict, fear, and instability can interfere with the development of the prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain responsible for impulse control, judgment, and problem-solving.
Krista and Mindy also look closely at everyday moments that quietly shape a child’s inner world: how (and whether) parents talk to kids about divorce, what happens when one parent is subtly undermined, and how children end up emotionally caring for a distressed parent.
Most importantly, listeners learn valuable ways to buffer children from harm. By the end, we understand not only what toxic stress does to children, but also how intentional choices by adults can protect kids’ emotional and neurological health, even in very hard seasons of family restructuring.
In this episode, you will hear:
The difference between positive, negative, acute, chronic, and toxic stress in children
How toxic stress can affect a child’s brain development and long-term behavior
Why “we never fight” divorces can still be deeply confusing and painful for kids
Practical ways parents and professionals can build resilience around children
How to talk about the other parent without causing hidden harm
Resources from this Episode
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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086: What to Look for in Therapeutic Resources for Your Children with Psychologist Dr. Kathleen McNamara

Join us for an insightful discussion with Dr. Kathleen McNamara, a seasoned psychologist with nearly 40 years of experience, as she shares her expertise at the intersection of family law and psychology.
In this episode of Children First Family Law, we delve into the intricacies of child-parent relationships, emphasizing the need to separate relationship issues from parenting logistics. Dr. McNamara's extensive career, spanning academia, clinical practice, and policy-making, enriches our exploration of child-centered strategies that place children's needs at the forefront in legal contexts.
We examine the impact of recent legislative changes and the complexities surrounding terms like alienation and gaslighting. Dr. McNamara advocates for moving beyond labels to focus on specific behaviors and their effects on family dynamics. The episode also highlights Kayden's Law and the evolving role of best-interests attorneys – called Child Legal Representatives in Colorado – discussing the balance between safeguarding children and honoring parental rights.
Throughout the conversation, we address the challenges of high-conflict divorces, stressing the importance of a stable parenting schedule and the guidance of experienced therapists. By encouraging communication, conflict resolution, and emotional resilience, we aim to assist families in transitioning from disputes to effective co-parenting.
Our discussion, filled with expert advice and personal experiences, aims to inspire listeners to adopt child-focused approaches in the complex realm of family law.
In this episode, you will hear:
Exploring the intersection of family law and psychology with Dr. Kathleen McNamara
Child-centered strategies and their importance in family dynamics
The impact of recent legislative changes, such as Kayden's Law, on family law
Challenges and strategies for managing high-conflict divorces and parenting schedules
The role of language and behavior-focused approaches in understanding family dynamics
The importance of emotional resilience, communication, and conflict resolution in co-parenting
Insights into child advocacy, family rights, and the evolving role of best-interests attorneys – called child legal representatives in Colorado
Resources from this Episode
Dr. Kathleen McNamara’s website: kathleenmcnamaraphd.com
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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085: Colorado Child Relocation Laws: How Moving Affects Custody and Parental Rights

In today’s episode of Children First Family Law™, Krista explores one of the most high-conflict areas in Colorado family law: relocation after divorce or custody orders. When one parent wants to relocate, whether within or outside the state, courts must decide what serves the child’s best interest, not the parent’s
Krista walks through how Colorado handles relocation under C.R.S. §14-10-129, explains the difference between a parent's right to move and the right to move with a child, and addresses a common fear: Is it kidnapping to move without permission? She illustrates these issues with real-world case studies, one in which a parent left without notice, and another in which a parent followed every step legally.
This solo episode covers the legal process, emotional impact, court standards, and how to keep children at the center of difficult relocation decisions. It’s a must-listen for any parent facing—or fearing—a move.
In this episode, you will hear:
Relocation means any move that significantly disrupts an existing parenting plan, not just moves across state lines
Parents retain the right to relocate, but not the automatic right to move a child with them
Colorado requires written notice, a proposed new parenting plan, and court approval under C.R.S. §14-10-129
Unauthorized relocation can result in contempt charges or emergency return orders, even without criminal charges
Courts assess each relocation under the best interests of the child per C.R.S. §14-10-124
Long-distance parenting creates added costs and challenges—judges often assign travel costs to the relocating parent under C.R.S. §14-10-115(11)
Emotional losses for children include missing friends, schools, and a parent’s daily presence
Real case examples show why courts value transparency, cooperation, and early communication
Key case law includes Spahmer v. Gullette, Ciesluk v. Ciesluk, In re Marriage of Martin, and DeZalia v. DeZalia
 
Resources from this Episode
Relocation statute: C.R.S. 14-10-129: codes.findlaw.com/co/title-14-domestic-matters/co-rev-st-sect-14-10-129
Best interests of the child: C.R.S. 14-10-124: codes.findlaw.com/co/title-14-domestic-matters/co-rev-st-sect-14-10-124
Payment issues: C.R.S. 14-10-115(11), scroll way down to find (11): codes.findlaw.com/co/title-14-domestic-matters/co-rev-st-sect-14-10-115
Key Colorado caselaw around relocation:
In re Marriage of Ciesluk: law.justia.com/cases/colorado/supreme-court/2005/04sc555-0.html
Spahmer v. Gullette: law.justia.com/cases/colorado/supreme-court/2005/03sc751-0.html
In re Marriage of Martin: callidusai.com/wp/ai/cases/2639358/in-re-the-marriage-of-martin
In re Marriage of DeZalia: callidusai.com/wp/ai/cases/2638291/marriage-of-dezalia-v-dezalia
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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084: Two Decisions That Will Define Your Divorce – with Family Law Icon Forrest “Woody” Mosten

Most divorcing parents assume their only options are to fight it out in court or somehow manage a settlement on the courthouse steps. What if the entire premise is wrong? In this episode of the Children First Family Law™ Podcast, Krista Nash sits down with Forrest "Woody" Mosten, a California-based family law attorney, mediator, and author of Family Lawyer as Peacemaker, who hasn't set foot in a courtroom in over 30 years and has built a thriving practice doing exactly that.
Forrest brings decades of hard-won experience working exclusively in mediation and cooperative law, including serving as counsel in the largest collaborative divorce case in history. He shares why litigation tends to extend emotional recovery, how early resolution protects both children and family finances, and what parents should actually look for when choosing a lawyer.
Families navigating divorce deserve to know that the war metaphor is optional.
In this episode, you will hear:
Why litigation extends the time it takes families to recover their psychological and emotional baseline after divorce
The real cost of adversarial divorce, including how two competing expert witnesses can cost four to five times more than one neutral
How Forrest "Woody" Mosten built a court-free practice that outearned his litigation years and why the financial case for peacemaking is strong
What the Roy Disney collaborative divorce revealed about protecting children's wellbeing even in high-asset, high-complexity cases
The difference between early and late resolution strategies, and why most traditional family lawyers default to the wrong one
Practical steps for families entering divorce, including how to find peacemaker attorneys and why bringing in a neutral mediator from the start changes outcomes
Why the lawyer the other party chooses shapes everything, and how to respond when the opposing side lawyers up aggressively
Resources from this Episode
https://mostenmediationtraining.com/forrest-woody-mosten/
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=family+lawyer+as+peacemaker&crid=30L9A8CG4DIPX&sprefix=family+lawyer+as+peacemake%2Caps%2C233&ref=nb_sb_noss
https://www.amazon.com/Collaborative-Divorce-Handbook-Helping-Families/dp/0470395192/ref=sr_1_3?crid=12RB7BN9AS2XG&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pouW277LrhaFj9dO7I1voFK_Mg6rnLeWPZUZVVKSdXAC9HGmaCK6Iv5PJ-9SMWwxopCfLyjoN2bRm24zRW4BHSNex0_yvuK4UO378zkOCNv8ns-AOb73nX0vcxzpFlE38XHtDa5eIUJPrv289yrvYmEW1eJECrd06RGlmLFFRRE.leikNCc6i4rlChlQiQsh6W1ZRxEzZzgm2rWd5DRdQDo&dib_tag=se&keywords=forrest+mosten&qid=1777610223&sprefix=forrest+mosten%2Caps%2C219&sr=8-3
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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083: Trust, But Verify: How Soberlink Is Changing Sobriety Monitoring in Family Law, with Soberlink’s Mike Fonseca

Alcohol use in custody cases rarely announces itself. In this episode of the Children First Family Law™ Podcast, Krista Nash sits down with Mike Fonesca, national sales manager at Soberlink, to talk about one of the most practical and reliable tools available to family courts today: real-time alcohol monitoring.
Mike breaks down how Soberlink works, why testing frequency matters more than most parents and attorneys realize, and how the device's facial recognition and tamper-detection technology make it far harder to game than cheaper alternatives. He also covers pricing, the financial assistance program, and how authenticated records hold up in court.
The real thread running through this conversation is trust. Used correctly, real-time monitoring gives families a credible path forward, one built on documented accountability rather than accusation.
In this episode, you will hear:
How Soberlink works, from the breath device and facial recognition to real-time compliance reports
Why testing frequency matters and what "two tests a day" fails to prove in a custody case
The three risk categories courts use to determine monitoring requirements
How tamper-detection technology exposes falsified breath samples and identity fraud
The difference between Soberlink's FDA-cleared device and cheaper consumer-grade alternatives
Pricing, rental options, and the financial assistance program for qualifying families
Why real-time monitoring builds trust between co-parents rather than simply catching violations
Resources from this Episode
https://www.soberlink.com/
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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082: AI in Divorce: What to Trust, What to Question, and What Could Hurt Your Kids–with Jamie Lima

Artificial intelligence is showing up in divorce cases at every stage, and most parents have no idea how to use it well or where it can quietly steer them wrong. In this episode, Krista Nash sits down with Jamie Lima, a former Morgan Stanley and Fidelity executive turned certified divorce financial analyst and founder of SecureSplit, who brings a rare combination of high-level financial expertise and firsthand experience with a difficult personal divorce.
Jamie breaks down exactly how AI can serve as a research tool and co-pilot through the financial complexities of divorce, and where it becomes a liability. He and Krista also get into how parents can use AI to draft better co-parenting communications and build more thoughtful parenting plans.
The tools exist. This episode is about learning to use them wisely.
In this episode, you will hear:
How AI is already reshaping divorce, from financial analysis to parenting plan drafts
Why prompt quality determines whether AI helps or misleads, and how to write better ones
The real risks of AI hallucinations in legal and financial contexts
How parents can use AI to soften co-parenting communications before sending them
What certified divorce financial analysts do that attorneys and AI cannot
SecureSplit, a new platform built to give both professionals and consumers better financial tools for divorce
How protecting children from conflict starts with the financial decisions parents make early
Resources from this Episode
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
https://allegiantds.com/team/jamie-lima/
https://securesplit.com/
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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081: The Most Stressful Part of Divorce for Kids (That No One Talks About) with Dr. Michael Saini

For most divorcing parents, the handoff between homes is treated as a scheduling detail. Dr. Michael Saini, professor at the University of Toronto and one of the leading researchers in high-conflict family dynamics, has spent years studying what actually happens to children during those moments, and the findings are hard to ignore. Krista Nash welcomes Dr. Saini back to the Children First Family Law Podcast for a conversation about his latest research, which examined 20 years of court cases to understand how judges, attorneys, and families are handling what he calls "changeovers," and where they're falling short.
Dr. Saini's research reveals that for many children, the transition between homes ranks among the most stressful parts of the entire separation experience, yet courts rarely address it in any meaningful detail.
This episode offers a clear-eyed look at what children actually need before, during, and after each changeover, and why it deserves far more attention than it gets.
In this episode, you will hear:
Why the moment children move between homes is often the most stressful part of the divorce experience
What 20 years of court cases reveal about how rarely judges address changeover planning in any meaningful detail
The hidden emotional labor children carry before, during, and after every transition between homes
How camera surveillance and litigation-driven behavior at exchanges affects children's long-term sense of safety and trust
What children actually need in the 30 minutes before a changeover and the adjustment period after arriving at the next home
Why school exchanges, police stations, and McDonald's parking lots fall short as default changeover locations
How children's voices are largely left out of changeover planning, and what changes when they're finally asked
 
Resources from this Episode
www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com
All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation. 
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